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Posted by UniBoffin at 14:00 on 17th July 2009 in UniBlog

Lost in Cyberspace

Lots happening at Unicorn at the moment, what with launching the 2010 range and all, but I’m going to put off discussing any of that for this time and instead address some outstanding business - not that Unicorn isn’t always an outstanding business, of course (hopefully get a gold star from The Big Boss for that one!).

Anyway, my last blog - “A Bit of a Barney” - didn’t have my usual Q&A addendum for the simple reason that there were no new Qs on the uniBlog website to A. However, it turns out that this was not due to any sudden lack of interest in flight dynamics from the darting public but because the questions in question had somehow got temporarily Lost in Cyberspace. Since then they’ve remorselessly marched into view like Cyberspace Invaders (Warning, Will Robinson, aliens approaching!). So, with due apologies for the delay, here I go trying to deal with them:

Unanswered Qs from “Node Debate”

Nick S and SlikStiks
I wouldn’t say SlikStiks (or side-loaders) are “the best” shafts, Nick, but I would say they offer advantages. When used with standard length flights they are easy to load and protect from “Robin Hooding”. They also offer scope for using pointed flight shapes that are less suited to end-loaders (which is one reason why I chose them for the Sigma Pro shafts). Mechanically, the titanium type have slightly better performance (and, inevitably, cost), but whether they, the aluminium, or the all-plastic versions are best for a particular player will depend on the optimal dart weight distribution for their throw and preferred barrel and flights. To even the score up a bit, I should say that some players can be put off by the end of side-loaders when they draw them back toward their face and by their lessened ability to keep the flight panels square to each other. However, that doesn’t seem to worry Phil Taylor any!

Harm de Vries and Help from Holland
Harm’s post was more of a selection of helpful comments rather than actual questions. I’ve taken these on board and some of the things he asks for may appear sooner rather than later! Not sure about orange Sigma One flights, though! Still, I won’t rule out seeing them one day – especially if Barney were suddenly to get a hankering for them!

Lonnie and Phil Taylor’s Darts (also regarding his question after “A Bit of a Barney”)
At the time of writing Phil plays with gold Phase 5s exactly as supplied. I’ve already written quite a lot on the saga of Phil changing his darts, starting off in “Sigma to the Power of One”, then adding more in “Unlucky for Some” and in an answer to Warren et al in the next blog “Snow Business”, so Lonnie can find detailed answers to his questions in those blogs. To summarise, Phil changed from the Sigmas because he wanted a more aggressive grip that extended backward, in fact on to the shaft. The Phase 5s that eventually resulted are based on John Lowe Hero barrels (which are in turn related to Sigma prototypes from many years ago) and Sigma Pro shafts with grip grooves but no tightening hole. Phil uses slim flights rather than Sigma Pros because the sharper trailing edge of the Pros could sometimes catch his cheek.

Qs from “Level Best”

Chris R and Flights
Even if the kite and the Sigma Pro flights are quite similar in shape, Chris, there can still be significant aerodynamic differences – such subtleties help me to earn a living! But another possible explanation for the disparity in performance is a difference in weight – even a fraction of a gram could greatly affect the dart’s moment of inertia (my MI2 blog looked at this). Although there’s no fixed trend for all players, heavier flights can easily cause a lower impact angle than lighter ones of the same shape.

Pete Fearn and Sigma One vs Sigma Pro
Well, Pete, just in case you weren’t clear about this, the barrels of Sigma Ones and Sigma Pros are essentially the same, it’s only the shafts and flights that differ. All other things being equal, the better you are the more you are likely to prefer the less aerodynamically stable Pro set-up. The lower stability means they are less forgiving of a wayward throw in terms of impact angle, but are more accurate if thrown well. However the Pros cost more as the shafts, being titanium, are more expensive to produce and the darts are additionally supplied with One shafts and flights so that the player can revert to a more forgiving set-up if required. Hence, unless money is tight, I’d recommend you getting the Pros. If money is tight, as with any new dart purchase, I’d suggest you try and borrow a set before committing yourself.

Ribena and Forward Grips
A long answer to this one! An interesting point here, Robin, (and something that influenced the somewhat rear-biased grip design of Sigmas - which there are no plans to change at the moment) is that many players have a forward grip when starting their throw but – as slow-motion video can confirm - actually move their forward fingers off the dart well before release, typically leaving an index (or second) finger/thumb pinch grip further to the rear to do the real throwing. However, a player’s perception here, even if not quite accurate, is important and it’s key that you should feel comfortable with, and have confidence in, the grip on your darts. I must admit I’m not 100% clear which dart you’re playing with at the moment, the T90 23g that was new last year (catalogue no 07397) or the older, longer model (no 07445). As the former is more like the old Sting 23g you mention, I’ll assume it’s that one. You also don’t say if you’ve changed the shafts/flights from the Karate medium length/Hi-Lites Plus shape that were supplied, but if not you haven’t got a particularly low-stability set-up (in fact, it wouldn’t be even if you were using the other longer T90 23g). From your description of your “straight” throw I think you might be underestimating yourself a bit here and you could actually be good enough to benefit from a lower-stability, higher accuracy set-up that might help keep your darts out of those 5s and 1s. As much as I and Unicorn would be quite happy for you to spend your money buying Sigmas, we both believe it’s more important that you get the right (OK, Unicorn!) dart for you. Therefore, if you feel comfortable with the T90s, I’d try experimenting with your set-up before you change darts. Maybe start by trying out CheckOut medium length shafts (cat nos 78565 – 78568) with Maestro Xtra flights. Good Luck!

There are 8 comments to this post

Posted by Dianne S at 15:59 on 17th July 2009

well uni boffin i have finally found the flight shaft combo for me with my longer points on my sigma pro 950''s, gripper ultra short shafts and Sigma One Enhanced delta flights.
i to tried kite shaped flights with all lengths of gripper shafts but the entry angles where to flat for me and to many falling out as they were landing in at less than 45degrees

Posted by Ribena at 20:47 on 18th July 2009

Hi Uniboffin,

Many thanks for replying to my question, unfortunatly, due to the length of time till my question got found for you, the temptation got waaaaaaaay to much for me to take. Needless to say i''m now the proud owner of Sigma 970''s 23g''s. )

Having been a fan of yours for some time, I had been down the route of trial and error with stems and flights and with a little help from the uni optimiser was using extra short gripper 2 stems and pear flights . (the old t90''s were the ones in the small red case).

I have found the Sigmas an absolute joy to throw and ive noticed a difference in the way I hold the dart and also how the dart flies to the board.

Im currently using the Sigma One flights with extra short stems as the longer lengths tend to annoy me.

Ive found I have periods of greater consistancy than usual, and ive seen my 3 dart avg raise up to around 55 - 60 when im throwing well.

My drifting problem is still apparent, im currently reading some concentration and sports psychology books to try and improve my focus,I just need to work on getting nearer the 100 avg mark so I can get an afternoon audience with yourself!!

Many thanks for a great column, keep up the great work for us deciples.

Robin

Posted by CJK at 18:27 on 21st July 2009

Hi there,

Could you please explain the benefits that the new Black Ti finish on the 2010 line provides, and why it''s so much costlier than a Gold Ti finish? Will it wear-off over time (like the gold finish) or chip/flake (like the latinum)? Finally, when will the 2010 line be added to the Unilab so we can see their dimensions?

Posted by smiley at 21:11 on 22nd July 2009

Hi Uniboffin, being an avid fan of the Sigma Pro 970s, i purchased my original set of 25gram around 7 months ago, and haven''t looked back since. I love them so much that I have even bought a new set for spares. I have kept with the standard pro setup, with one slight modification, I have a preference for the cheaper aluminium slikstik option which in my opinion are just as good. I am now beginning to get a bit bored with the single option in flights, plain black only, and no further colours or patterns to choose from...so my question to unicorn is...are there any plans to bring out a wider range of this Pro shape flight, either just plain colours, or some patterned versions ? Also, a minor gripe in the colour fading of the black flights, I use Trident180 nose cones with my darts which prolong the life of the flights greatly, but I find that I am changing them purely for cosmetic reasons of the black colouring, and not the fact the flights are damaged at all.

So, I would be very glad to hear of some plans for some colour choices in these flights.

Posted by Freddie Grice at 16:44 on 26th July 2009

i have found thaT a set of kite flights work best with my phase 5''s. however i only wish to use unicorn. u have seen your 2010 range on darts corner and there are no kite flights. would unicorn please bring out some kite shaped flights please?

Posted by Chris at 20:47 on 26th July 2009

Looking forward to the new range being released, my wife calls it Christmas 2, as I tend to have a huge list of much needed items!

Posted by DIESEL at 21:36 on 28th July 2009

I don''t really have a comment but I do have a question I have been pondering a while in my mind. I hope you can help because it will settle my game. Lets start with my throw starting with stance. My stance is dead center turned completely sideways. I have no draw back in my throw at all and my elbow and forearm are at a 95 degree angle when I start. I would say my throw, without that kind of accuracy, is like Phil Taylors without the draw. Even the wrist action is similar but only from the point that his arm is at the 95 degree angle where he releases. I started to use a pinching method toward the back with my grip which is very odd to me but it gets ver good results so far. I was wondering, weight wise, what would be ideal for a no draw throw? At least from a scientific stand point, what would give more power and ease to the board? I have been using 18-22 darts lately but I have messed with the phase 5s but I can not control them like I want to. Also, is a pinching method for a grip a good practice? Thank you so much for any kind of advice as I keep changing things until they are perfect.
-D-

Posted by matt at 23:28 on 18th November 2009

hi i was wondering, my throw is quite soft and slow, and therefore what weight darts would be best to use.
thanks

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