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Factor Fiction?

Posted by UniBoffin at 00:30 on 27th June 2008 in UniBlog

Factor Fiction?

Earlier this week I fired up the impulse engine on StarShip Boffin (I’m still working on an eco-friendly anti-matter drive – anyone know where I can get organic dilithium crystals?) and chugged at warp factor 30mph down to Unicorn HQ. Where I found so much frantic activity underway that I could have sworn I saw (not just heard!) the Doppler shift as people rushed past.

However, as the Big Boss wouldn’t be very happy if I stole the marketing department’s thunder (they can get quite tetchy if you do that), for the time being I’m going to leave you in suspense about exactly what else I saw. Let’s just say some very interesting things have now emerged from the drawing board (OK, CAD/CAM system) and may soon hit the streets. Just don’t tell anyone I told you!

So, instead of risking a slap from the hand that feeds, I’m going to play it safe for this blog by trying to answer the gratifyingly more expansive selection of comments and questions which my last one provoked – many thanks to Bob, Paul, Warren, Ole, Lonnie and Clarence, it is definitely nice to know someone’s still out there!

These guys have raised some good points and I hope you’ll find the following Q&As interesting enough to bring you back next time, when maybe I’ll put on an old (preferably tomato-sauce coloured?) shirt and spill some of those Unicorn beans!

Q&As

Bob and Plastic Shafts, etc.
Bob makes some good points about the number of non-aerodynamic factors that can affect the choice of a barrel, shaft or flights (eg, the possibility of aluminium shafts being worse than plastic for causing bounce-outs). Much of what he says has validity, but to incorporate many such parameters into uniLab (it already has barrel shape, weight and grip type) would complicate its use and arguably dilute the pure science on which it’s based. Still, I’ll be bearing his suggestions in mind and will be returning to his comments about barrel nose shape and the grip on Sigma darts in future blogs.

Paul and Curved Flights
Paul describes how he has tried bending his flights into a spiral in an attempt to reduce bed-blocking and wonders about the aerodynamics consequences. In fact there have been a lot of studies on this shape of flights (well, shape of fins, anyway) as it is a handy one for missile designers because it allows the fins to be stored wrapped-around a tubular missile and then spring-up after launch.

One aspect of wrap-round fins (as they are called) is that the lift they produce will usually be less when they are the “u” way up than the “n”, which will cause it to be different on each side of the missile. Thus a yaw angle will cause an “aerodynamic rolling moment” (remember the phrase from last time?) that, as the missile yaws one way and then the other, will alternate between clockwise and anticlockwise. Over a relatively long trajectory, this can cause the “spin-yaw resonance” I mentioned.

However, as I also said, the flight path of a dart is too short for resonance to be a real problem and the consequences of using spiral flights should thus be none too dramatic, although they might induce some undesirable inconsistency in the spin and yawing motion (the latter partly because their curve slightly reduces their span and hence lift).

I’d be interested to hear about Paul’s own experiences in this regard and whether he did notice any reduction in bed-blocking – personally I’m not sure that it would help much, except possibly by weakening the material of the flights.

Ole and Spin
Well, Ole is really risking me going into technical overload now with his question about spin stabilisation. Laudably, I’ll resist pontificating too much on this complex subject, but I will say that the mathematics of spin-stabilisation has been well-defined since Fowler, Lock & Gallop (plus a poor bloke called Richmond who often gets forgotten) produced their 1920 report on “The Aerodynamics of a Spinning Shell”.

To explain briefly how spin stabilisation works, when an aerodynamically unstable projectile (see my early “Difference Between Chalk and CGs” blog) such as a shell yaws upwards (say), the yaw causes lift which acts in front of the CG and tips the shell nose up. If it’s spun fast enough, the shell then responds like a gyroscope to this tipping and “precesses” to yaw sideways. This in turn causes sideways lift and thus a downward gyroscopic response which negates the original upward yaw. For this “negative feedback loop” in yaw to work and keep the shell pointing more-or-less straight, the gyroscopic effect created by the shell’s spin must exceed the aerodynamic tipping effect due to yaw. The ratio of these is defined mathematically as Sg, the “Gyroscopic Stability Factor”, which has to be more than 1 for the shell to be stable.

As Ole guessed, for a dart without flights (or an on-board fly-wheel) to satisfy this criterion, it would indeed need to spin like a dentist’s drill! Mind you, flights might beat spin hands down for dart stabilisation, but technically they’re not the only option. Tie some ribbon to the shaft and you’ll have a “drag-stabilised” dart - give it a try (but maybe not in front of your mates!)

Finally, Ole, on your other question about spin, the flight surfaces on each side of a dart at yaw will generate lift forces which, even with a free-spinning shaft, will largely cancel out in terms of rotational effect, but still combine to push the dart back straight.

Clarence and Sigma Soft-Tips
Glad you like the darts, Clarence, and if you want to use them with a conventional board I’d recommend trying the shorter Unicorn Converta points (catalogue number 78590). If you’re currently using the Sigma Pro shaft and flights successfully, there’s no reason why this combination then shouldn’t still work well, but you could also have a go with Sigma One shafts and Q Slim flights (if you can get them – Hi-Lites Slim will do if not). Let me know how you get on!

There are 7 comments to this post

Posted by Dylan at 14:29 on 1st July 2008

uni boffin, i use the sigma barrel at 25g, gripper 2 nylon shafts and the larger Q flights,imfinding my consistancy isn''t doing well but the set up feels good and the trajectory in the board is landing well but am struggling, would using XL or titanium XLI shafts help??

Posted by Clarence at 14:47 on 3rd July 2008

Boffin,

So I used my new soft tip Sigmas at Medalist playoffs this last weekend and did pretty well. If there was a change to be made to these darts in the future (and I hope I can be part of your testing team), I would like a ringed grip ala Phil Taylor style with double the amount of grooves to increase grip even further. I felt the dart slip a few times during the course of the tournament and didn''t get a positive push away of the dart from my hand (grip wax didnt help much either lol) As far as overall flight it flew very nice and was impressed with its overall consistency.

Another thing. When will you folks be stocking the soft tips (clear ones with metallic flecks) in bulk. Thanks Again!

Posted by Clarence at 15:04 on 3rd July 2008

Boffin,

Sorry forgot to add. I would like that style grip to go all way to the end of the barrel on both ends

Thanks,

Clarence

Posted by Troy P at 20:40 on 10th July 2008

Why do flights almost always have four fins? There are at least two or three companies that make three-finned flights, but they''re relatively rare. Three fins would reduce bed-blocking, but is there some aerodynamic problem with them? A local physicist makes and uses three-finned flights. Does he know something we don''t, or does he just like being different?

Posted by Paul Bryant at 20:07 on 17th July 2008

Many thanks for the reply Mr Boffin, as you''d guess my wrap-around fins weren''t so successful at preventing blocking I didn''t notice an appreciable difference in trajectory, but if anything the flights blocked more when the darts were closely grouped.
The best solution I''ve found to help stop the flights blocking incoming darts is to feather them - I make cuts from the outer edges to near the spine at the same angle as the leading edge (slim / mini vortex flights).
This definitely works, as an incoming dart can pass easily through the feathering, and again it seems to have little impact on the flight of the dart there''s a Q 4 U!) - however it is a real pain setting-up each new set of flights, they''re then really difficult to get in my slik-stiks, and they start to look really tatty after a while!
I''ve even bought ''real'' feather flights to try, but I''m so used to being able to fine-tune my shafts / flights set-up that having a single choice of length & weight (that doesn''t really suit my throw anyway) just doesn''t cut it - though I''d have to say that feather flights are the least blocking of any I''ve tried - hmm, the advances of science?!
I''d love to see some artificial feathered flights in a choice of weights and sizes - and at a sensible price those turkey feathers aren''t cheap!
And on flexible shafts please - spinners (or anything that rattles) totally suck, XL+, slik-stiks etc that bend are just the ticket, thanks :)

Posted by Paul Bryant at 00:30 on 18th July 2008

I''d also like to echo Troy P''s question: I love the idea of the tri-fin flights, as less fins should less blocking, but the fins are sooo huge and the choice of shafts is again really restricted that they''re less than ideal. I guess less fins means bigger fins to provide the same lift?
I''ve even tried 2-fin flights - very little blocking, lots of un-even yawing!
How about... 8 fin flights? An 8-finned slim flight could have fins half the usual width (e.g. tiny) and still provide the same stabilisation? Obviously 4 of the fins would fit over the shaft at the base rather than into it (I''d hate to try and get 8 fins into an 8-way slot), but with the moulded L-flights now available that shouldn''t be too hard? And they''d still then work with all the current shafts, unlike tri-fins? And if they were feathered they''d hardly block at all...
Maybe I should just learn the traditional art of fletching lol!

Posted by John at 09:36 on 20th July 2008

Dilithium can be found on only a few planets in the galaxy, and is therefore a rare and valuable substance. Notable sources of dilithium included Coridan and Elas in the Federation, as well as Rura Penthe in the Klingon Empire and Remus in the Romulan Star Empire. (TOS: "Journey to Babel", "Elaan of Troyius" Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country DS9: "One Little Ship" Star Trek Nemesis) It could also be found on Troyius, where it was known as radan, and had a variety of different uses, including jewelry.

I hope this helps Mr. UniBoffin

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