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Posted by UniBoffin at 11:45 on 4th April 2008 in UniBlog

Delta Force

Any triskadecaphobics out there may be slightly disturbed to learn that this is numero 13 in this series of glimpses into the exotic wonders of dart flight dynamics. But that doesn’t seem to have affected my luck too badly because I’ve had a bit of a result.

My distinctly unexotic plan for this particular offering had been to look at why the flights on Sigma darts have what aerodynamicists call a delta planform and everybody else calls a kite shape. Unfortunately this plan had one drawback that I hadn’t quite resolved. Explain things too simplistically and I might disappoint my more technically inclined readers like Chris R and Bob. Provide a full technical dissertation, on the other hand, and, at the first mention of a “lift coefficient maxima”, most of my audience would probably decide to entertain themselves by reading Dartoid instead.

Luckily, Red has solved this dilemma for me. By putting in a comment to my last blog full of phrases like “linearized theory” and “separation vortices”, he has saved me from having to mention anything of the sort. So now anyone who wants to delve further into the intricacies of delta wing aerodynamics can just read Red’s post (and Red can award himself his small prize!) whilst I sit back and provide a more relaxed overview, which handily leaves more room for the usual Q&As at the end.

And my first relaxed overview point is that, although delta flights might look very aerodynamic, they’re in fact normally not that efficient at generating lift, which is why nearly all non-military aircraft don’t have delta wings. They’re good supersonically, hence Concorde and modern jet fighters have them, but that isn’t of much relevance to a dart player (unless, maybe, he wears blue lycra and is allergic to Kryptonite).

However, although delta flights might not generate as much lift as normal shaped flights, they do keep generating it to a higher yaw angle. That’s why Concorde had that “droop snoop”, it came in to land nice and slowly at an angle which could have caused a normal plane to stall – which was great except that the pilot wouldn’t have been able see the runway if the nose hadn’t been able to tilt forward.

And that high stall angle, the mechanism for which Red has so helpfully pretty much explained, is important for Sigma darts because stalling could ruin those carefully crafted yaw wavelengths that give the benefits I’ve described in previous blogs.

Because Sigma Ones are intended to be more stable and have more yaw damping than Sigma Pros, they need more lift from their flights. A full delta shape with enough area to generate the required amount of lift would be so long and wide at the back players would be in danger of poking themselves in the eye when throwing, so the Sigma One flight is a compromise which Unicorn have called an “enhanced delta”. It has more-or-less the same length and width (“span” in aerodynamics-speak) as a standard “Plus” flight, but still enough sweep-back angle on the leading edge to help prevent stalling.

Sigma Pros, which don’t need so much lift, can use a much smaller flight, meaning a full delta shape can be used. One consequence of this is that the tip of the flights is very pointed, making them weak at the front and hence slightly more suited to side-load than end-load shafts. So, as with most aspects to the design of Sigmas, there is a scientific reason for what might have seemed like this arbitrary choice of shaft type!

Finally, although I suspect not many perusing this blog will have had occasion to read the Scottish edition of the Sun newspaper on April 1st, if you did happen to I would just point out that from now on the name’s Boffin – Uni Boffin!

Q & As:

Jon, John Lowe Darts and Weight (from the blog before last):
If you have another look at my last blog, Jon, you’ll see that Sigma Pros actually use the yaw component in their impact angle to compensate for inaccuracy caused by lift. This yaw is easier to see in the horizontal plane than in the vertical because there’s no curve of the trajectory due to gravity to confuse things. Sigma Pros are indeed far less forgiving in this regard than the John Lowes, but this is because of the flights/shaft, not because the barrels are longer - switch to the Sigma One flights/shaft with the same barrels and you should find them as or more forgiving than the John Lowes, which is why the Sigma One set-up is recommended for improving players.

Many players do find they throw heavier darts more positively, which does indeed mean they go slightly higher. This is more to do with psychology than physics, however, and I wouldn’t like to speculate about the role of gender in that subject!

John P, UniLab and Barrel Flats:
The reason you get different answers from UniLab Selector and Optimiser for the same STs and SPs, John, is that Selector recommends a darts set-up as sold, ie barrel, shaft and flights. Given the same barrel, Optimiser will then recommend which shaft and flights would be best for you. Because there are so many possible combinations of STs and SPs, these won’t usually be the same as the ones with which it’s sold.

As for the flats on the front of Sigma (and many other) barrels, you’re right that it’s there for strength, which is particularly an issue with higher percentage tungsten. However, Unicorn and I are looking at possible improvements which might help.

Bob and Chris R and Grips:
Take your point about humidity, guys, but that’s what I meant when I talked about “the fine grip disadvantage of possible slipperiness” in my answer to Bob last time. My reference to a possible issue with “variable release” for coarser grips would perhaps have been better expressed as “asymmetric release”, meaning that a rougher finish can make it harder to let go of opposing sides of the barrel exactly simultaneously, which can cause trajectory deviation and yawing. That said, you’re right that “stickiness” can cause a similar problem with fine grips. All in all, as I’ve said before, grip is mostly a matter of personal preference and any future Sigmas might well offer a coarser grip as an alternative to the current fine one.

Keiron and Chris R and Missing is the Missing Word:
Well done to these two and any other Sherlocks who got this – bonus points if you didn’t use Google!

There are 6 comments to this post

Posted by bob at 06:29 on 7th April 2008

Thanks for the info and feel free to contact me if you need a play tester for a Sigma with more cuts moving back toward the shaft. A set of Pros in something around 24g would be perfect :)

I am still not 100% pleased with the darts I''ve been throwing the past three weeks or so. Absent a Sigma with cuts, I guess I''ll try a 23g T90 next. As far as I can tell from the catalog, that''s the closest I can get and I don''t want to wait too much longer before I get settled back into a proper groove.

With regard to UniLab, I wonder where it''s going. It''s a "beta" product at the moment, but what might the eventual vision be? I have an idea that it would be great if you could apply whatever parameters you wanted to have the program solve for the rest. For example, let''s say I''m throwing the above mentioned T90 and I am very partial to short nylon shafts. I would like it to tell me which shape of flight would be best. Or, maybe I prefer a kite shaped flight and need to know what shaft would be most technically accurate.

One other thing I think UniLab desperately needs is some sort of FAQ page. It would be nice to see some of the details about what sort of percentages one should expect and how to interpret different ranges of percentage variance.

Finally, a few words in response to the comments on "variable release" with coarse grips. Part of what I like in a coarse grip is a torpedo or bomb barrel, like the Sigma, that is getting fatter in front of my main power finger and thumb. With that shape of dart, the kind I threw for most of 20 years, I have no issue with release. Once the dart has momentum from the start of the forward motion, there is almost no need for a true release. If the dart is narrowing behind the fingers, then the momentum pulls it out of my very light grip. It''s a very different release and, for me, much more reliable than what I can do with a straight barrel dart. My problem has been in finding such a barrel that doesn''t block too much of the bed with a fat nose.

With the information I have, I feel the ideal dart would be a 24g Sigma Pro with coarse cuts all the way back to the shaft, a max diameter around 9/32" and a little more rounding of the nose to better slide past the flights of a dart already in the board.

Posted by Warren Ackary at 13:10 on 9th April 2008

I have been trying the Sigma One Flights on a set of my darts, which was custom made for me. Now as I have always used Standard flights I decided to give the Sigma One''s a trial. BOY do they make the dart cut through the air, as well they keep the dart on course (yes there is yaw there but not as much).

Reading Robs post above I totally agree with the last paragraph he typed.
"I feel the ideal dart would be a 24g Sigma Pro with coarse cuts all the way back to the shaft, a max diameter around 9/32" and a little more rounding of the nose to better slide past the flights of a dart already in the board."

I have always used 24gram darts, I didnt know my Sigma''s came in the odd weights when I was asked the weight when Unicorn was about to send them out. Perhaps Unicorn will release a 24gram version?

Posted by dianne s at 08:14 on 17th April 2008

i have john low 18g st with sp conversion points im having trouble sorting out shafts n flights im using grippers n kites the grippers r just a bit longer than my old shfts which no one makes any more "slimline nylons" getting big variations in angle on entering the board

Posted by bob at 19:41 on 22nd April 2008

Dianne, I''m not the expert here, but I have experienced that the kite flights seem to provide more lift than their size would indicate. I have been trying a couple new sets of darts over the last three months and spun through a variety of flights looking for the right fit. Trial and error isn''t so bad if you don''t mind spending $10-20 on flights that you won''t ever use in competition. In my experience, kites kicked up the tail too high for me. Slim flights left the tail below the point when they reached the board. I got good results from both the pear and fantail shapes, but the pear seems to fly a little straighter for me. It is also, IMO, a better shape for allowing the next dart to reach the board. Of course, I''m throwing 23-25g darts and using short nylon shafts. Our throws probably don''t match either, so what works for me might not work for you at all. As much as I like the idea of UniLab, there''s no substitute for actual performance testing. In your position, I''d try a few things until I was happy about it.

On a side note, darts that fly like that can help you learn about your throw and fix things that are wrong. If your setup magnifies the yaw instead of taming it, then practicing with it a bit may help you achieve a straighter and more consistent release.

Good luck, and wait for the UniBoffin response before you do anything drastic.

Posted by Lonnie Leaman at 17:05 on 24th April 2008

I have recently been looking around to purchase another set of soft tip darts. I throw out of the US and the maximimum amount of grams that a player can throw with is 18 grams. The Sigma Pro only comes in the soft tip version at 19 grams. Too bad the lab techs did not think about the darters over here. Is there anything that I could purchase that would be the next closest thing to the Sigma Pro?

Posted by Gavin at 19:47 on 4th January 2009

is intentionally spinning my darts on release a bad thing for my game??? I play for an hour or two everyday and sometime i manage to throw the darts without spinning them but this often leads to my darts hitting everything exceopt what im aiming at. Your advice would be much obliged

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